Unofficial Minutes
DSROA Board Meeting
December 13, 2008
9:00 AM at the Quality Inn, Kanab, Utah
Board members present: John Southwick, Ben Clarkson, Dave Sills, Ed Bolinski, John Harris
(teleconf.), Dustin Hollis
(teleconf.)
Board members not present: Shawna Cox
Others in attendance: Vance Green (teleconf.), Paul and Nancy Brayton, Mike Duval
(teleconf.), Dale and Patty Clarkson,
Brent Fulmer, Bob Becker, Larry Baer, Larry Clarkson, Lance Jackson (Anasazi Tours)
Opening Prayer: Dave Sills
John: Only have audio minutes of last months meeting - approved and seconded - Dave
Sills to review, document and
distribute minutes of November meeting.
John: Will return to financial - asked for caretakers report.
Paul: Farming in progress, PTO on Kuboto fixed, brush-hogged several acres, cattle
delivered to auction (two loads) and
sold, all but three calves, will turn in receipt.
Ben: Asked about plan on last three calves - discussed the plans
Paul: Has weights on cattle
Ben: Where are we on hay
Paul: Not good hay - being sold on request
Linda: $7.50/ bale when purchased
Discussion of hay inventory
Linda: What paperwork is required on cattle?
Ben: Transfer of ownership paperwork - Braytons can sign
Paul: Johnsons took cattle in. Cabin number four limb and trim complete, number 2 and 3 in
progress. Chain saw serviced,
ranch house fire pit stonework required.
Larry: Recommend lava stone - wont crack
Paul: Ranch house headquarters being readied for winter. Cutting and splitting more wood.
Cabin 7 and 8 being used -
scheduled for winter.
John: Recommended control on cabin firewood use - inform members, educate on use of
firewood in cabins (dampering)
Paul: Yellow generator is OK, inverter was problem. Asked about large water tank bid for
repair.
John: Not yet
Paul: Discussed cabin log book (repairs, etc.) - Will maintain at ranch house with log of
equipment records
Ben: Brought up fence/gate work/repairs
Paul: Tuesday had to put Jeremys horse down - discussed
Dave: How is balance between solar and generator power?
Paul: Using 10%/day - no generator use - Vance donated weather station - monitoring
battery storage temp - placed fan in
area
Nancy: Gave status on her son
John: Old business - vegetation (planting) going well
Dale : Passed out a report on vegetation effort
John: Read report aloud
Dale: Said cabin usage should be doubled - discussed condition of cabins, reservation work
Paul: Cabins all functioning
Patsy: Asked if mattresses Larry delivered were in cabins?
Paul: Yes, possible one in storage
Dale: Johnsons have been in Garden cabin, could use cabin #6
Paul: No problem using Garden cabin - they bring supplies
Ben: A motion to keep garden cabin in their use to April - seconded
John: What is Dales reservation fee for?
Dustin: Should waive reservation fee
Ed: Motion to waive fee and time - seconded - none opposed
John: Continued old business - Skutumpah road discussed
Brent: May have to haul dirt to road damaged near Lick Wash.
John: Asked Paul to notify BLM of any fires
Vance: Asked members to get closer to speaker for clarity
John: Discussed fire protection - cabin #3 erosion discussed
John: Continued old business - water tank, law suit (letter), discussed and will review
letter and follow up Monday
John: Financials
Linda: Discussed note being sent with assessments - discussed finances - expect $3000 to
$4000 remaining in budget - have
not been billed for plumbing work - Linda/Ben will contact plumber - discussed December
budget
Paul: Discussed fuel stabilizer expenses
John: Please label all expenses on report
Linda: Reviewed December expenses - discussed land taxes - penalty of $247 for late
payment - continued on financial sheets
Dustin: Brought up computer replacement - will discuss later
Linda: Continue on budget -
Ben: Said BLM 10 year road permit of $3822 is excessive - title 5 -
John: Dont send check - send copy of bill to Ben and John - will investigate - must
budget for these amounts
Dale: Who has copy of Title 5 contract?
John: Will follow up
Linda: Will look for Title 5 paperwork
Ben: What direction are we going for record keeping
John: Direct to Ben is plan - will work with Ben
John: Need to budget teleconference costs
Mike Duval: Free conference service is available - can provide numbers for free service
John: New business: BLM grazing permits
Ben: Brought map for Paul - want to prevent grazing in new seed areas - need to monitor
fences - will work with Paul -
should put together plan for limited cattle operation - will discuss with interested
parties to make plan - including
round-up
John: Discussed future grazing plan and proposals
Patty: Asked about member grazing - group discussed
Linda: No future ranch association cattle?
Ben: Not likely
John: Revenue stream if we lease - open to proposals for cattle and horses
John: Proposal from Ben Clarkson
Dale: Letter sent to board and others asking for comments on proposals - received two
answers - indicates no interest -
asked all present to write 1 through 16 on a sheet of paper and input their feeling on
each item displayed
Patty: Presented DSR Looking Ahead power point - each participant was asked to
make entry of opinion on 1-16
Completed presentation
John: Read Dales commitment letter - will post on website
Vance: Asked for copy of power point presentation to put on website
John: Wants to be involved in process of consideration of suggested changes
Dale: Discussed some aspects of changes needed
Mike: Could board make proposal to move ahead with Dales proposals
All discussed aspects of proposals - possible structuring
Dave: How about a specific proposal with budget impact
Dale: Wife and I expect involvement and changes to be around 24 months
John: Introduced Lance Jackson (Anasazi Tours)
Lance: Discussed concepts of possible involvement of his services and involvement with
ranch - open to any and all ideas -
(8-10 riders and 1-2 times a week) - discussed held permits, policy and practice
Dave: Asked for proposal to be submitted by next meeting with liability clauses
Group discussed impact on bylaws
John: Back to Clarkson proposal - motion to move forward with proposals of concessionaire
management two year plan
Ben: Discussed approval of system, not two year plan, key is specific plan for action and
liability
Ben/Dale: Discussed liability insurance in force - management company involvement
John: Modify motion - Have Dale provide management/concessionaire - motion seconded -
carried - no abstentions
Brent: Moving in right direction - does not see any threat from proposals - ranch needs
weed burner
John: 15 minute break
John: Call to order - Preliminary budget discussion -
Discussed preliminary budget - will e-mil copy to board
Discussed $434 lot assessments
Ben: Need to finalize assessments - consider reduction - where did $434 come from?
John: Two years ago - does not see need to increase - need to be better stewards of funds
Ed: Motion to maintain existing fee - seconded - carried
Mike Duval: Expressed gratitude to board for efforts
Ben: Post as much as can be on website, not mailing- keep costs down
Ben: Newsletter - double-fold
John: Will put together newsletter to be mailed with assessment
Ed: When is Rhino to be paid off?
John: First of next year
All discussed assessments not received - discussed budget specifics
Vance: Will scan and e-mail water connection costs
Ben: Discussed ranch fuel use/log/reporting
Discussed items for consideration of reduction/tracking, etc.
Changed general Administration category to Bookkeeping (2-3 hour/day average)
Recategorized insurance/subcategory of Auto, property, etc.
Ben discussed meeting date and structure
A budget committee was set of, comprised of John, Ed, Ben, Linda
Next meeting January 10th, 9am -meeting adjourned